Is the SRT8 worth it?

[climberccm]

The SRT8 is a muscle cruiser. It is not as fast as the GT500 or SS Camaro but it is no slouch either. It is a performance platform that travels well on the highway and when you want it the HP/torque is there for the using. Now add the look, styling, and interior looks and what you have is a complete package that puts the GT500 and Camaro to shame. The question for you to answer is what do you want from your car?

[SMS 570]

Ford can't build anything fast that is naturally aspirated

[Challenger370]

Originally Posted by SMS 570

Ford can't build anything fast that is naturally aspirated

I complane about the Mustang being only a 4.6L all the time. They have a 460, but chose not to use it. With all due respect to the lighter faster mustang GT, it has less power, a smaller engine, and is lighter than the Challenger, but it gets worse milage.

Typically when I talk milage people say some varration on "its a race car, milage is irrelivant" There is some good points to that, but if that was true then why doesnt the R/T have a 7L? And why dont you have an SRT-8? Also look at it this way, if the 5.7L HEMI makes more power, and with a heavier car still gets better milage than the Mustang, imagine if Ford used the engine formula of the Challenger on the lighter mustang? Imagine what 370 hp would do in the lighter mustang that doesn increase fuel usage.

Anyway, to the forced induction point, Chevy puts a super charger on the ZR-1 to get the power up, Ford puts a super charger on the GT, and GT-500, where as Dodge uses "theres no replacement for displacement" and puts in a usable 8.4L in the Viper. Imagine if Dodge was to go forced induction on the viper?

I want a Viper GT-R that has 20 pounds boost, to end the horse power wars, and shut up Ford and Chevy for Good. How much would it take with forced induction to put the Viper just over the Bugatti Veyron? and that would be like what 400 hp over the ZR-1?,

[Challenger370]

For the SRT-8 being worth it. Lookup a Brembo brake conversion. That will cost about $4,000.00 alone. Plus suspension, headers, bigger engine, and all the options that come stock you would need to order on the R/T. I just built out my 2010 R/T online today and it came to just over $37,000.00 MSRP. Yes if you can swing the payment the SRT-8 is definatly worth it.

[SMS 570]

I don't know what the real world mileage on a Challenger is. I can tell you what it is on a S-197. I've got one of those. Yes, I think the S-197 is lighter, but still to get the power of a 500 they not only go up on the cubes, but then they blow it.

I've got to believe (based on what SMS has done) that the Challenger would be hands down faster than the 500 if it came with a puffer as well. Cause I'm betting a SMS 570 will blow the doors off a GT500

[Challenger370]

Originally Posted by SMS 570

I don't know what the real world mileage on a Challenger is. I can tell you what it is on a S-197. I've got one of those. Yes, I think the S-197 is lighter, but still to get the power of a 500 they not only go up on the cubes, but then they blow it.

I've got to believe (based on what SMS has done) that the Challenger would be hands down faster than the 500 if it came with a puffer as well. Cause I'm betting a SMS 570 will blow the doors off a GT500

The gt-500 is heaver than the Mustang GT, its inline with the challenger R/T, so it becomes more about the driver. The mustang looses its weight advantage with the GT-500. The 2010 GT-500 has 540 hp, so yes the SMS570 would be faster.

[J_P]

Originally Posted by climberccm

The SRT8 is a muscle cruiser. It is not as fast as the GT500 or SS Camaro but it is no slouch either.

Not as fast as the Camaro? The camaro's top speed is limited to 155, SRT8 is not and has a natural top end between 170-180 depending on who you talk to. There's a guy in this forum who lives in Germany and had his at 180 or 181 on the autobahn.

The 1/4 mile time is the same as the Camaro with the L99 engine, you have to step up to the LS3 which is only available with a manual transmission to get a 3 tenths quicker. And you only get 1 tenth of a second quicker 0-60 in the Camaro with either the L99 or LS3 which both have the same 0-60 times, but the SRT8 has an automatic transmission vs the LS3 manual. A tweak or 2 would probably fix that.

[SRTGIRL]

test drive them both. thats what i did. i drovethe srt first and absolutely loved it.i drove the rt second really nice car as well but after the srt... well i know what i really wanted.srt has way more bang for $$$ if you can afford it
i bought a used one.

[Challenger370]

Factory headers, bigger more powerfull engine, brembo brakes, better suspension. etc. Go look up a big brembo brake kit for the R/T $4,500 front $3,500 rear. 8k just for the brakes. Option out an R/T and you will find more than the other 3k worth of options standard, and that doesnt count for the bigger more powerfull engine, suspension and headers. Honestly the SRT-8 is the better deal, but I bet the SE guys will say Im crasy as they can have 2 of their cars for one SRT-8 (close enough)

The SRT-8 is the real deal, if you can afford it, but for less you can get a stripped R/T for about 30k

[Challenger370]

Originally Posted by J_P

Not as fast as the Camaro? The camaro's top speed is limited to 155, SRT8 is not and has a natural top end between 170-180 depending on who you talk to. There's a guy in this forum who lives in Germany and had his at 180 or 181 on the autobahn.

The 1/4 mile time is the same as the Camaro with the L99 engine, you have to step up to the LS3 which is only available with a manual transmission to get a 3 tenths quicker. And you only get 1 tenth of a second quicker 0-60 in the Camaro with either the L99 or LS3 which both have the same 0-60 times, but the SRT8 has an automatic transmission vs the LS3 manual. A tweak or 2 would probably fix that.

Its splitting hairs, but when we say its faster, we are referring to 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. Its weard that they offer 2 different engines that are so close? With inventory costs, etc. it doesnt make sense ot me why they dont just put the LS3 in standard for both. But that makes the automatic slower.

I gues when comparring the Camaro also its typically against the R/T because its closer in price.

[DHSFed]

Originally Posted by J_P

Not as fast as the Camaro? The camaro's top speed is limited to 155, SRT8 is not and has a natural top end between 170-180 depending on who you talk to. There's a guy in this forum who lives in Germany and had his at 180 or 181 on the autobahn.

The 1/4 mile time is the same as the Camaro with the L99 engine, you have to step up to the LS3 which is only available with a manual transmission to get a 3 tenths quicker. And you only get 1 tenth of a second quicker 0-60 in the Camaro with either the L99 or LS3 which both have the same 0-60 times, but the SRT8 has an automatic transmission vs the LS3 manual. A tweak or 2 would probably fix that.

My Co-worker just purchased a SS/LS3 6 Speed Camaro, I just purchased a SRT8 6 Speed Challenger. Everyone wants us to do a comparison, after driving a LS3 Powered SS and My 6 Speed SRT8, I would be willing to lay some green down. Both are fast however, I drove a Autostick SRT8 before purchasing my 6 speed and due to the gearing difference alone there is a significant difference.

[Challenger370]

Originally Posted by DHSFed

My Co-worker just purchased a SS/LS3 6 Speed Camaro, I just purchased a SRT8 6 Speed Challenger. Everyone wants us to do a comparison, after driving a LS3 Powered SS and My 6 Speed SRT8, I would be willing to lay some green down. Both are fast however, I drove a Autostick SRT8 before purchasing my 6 speed and due to the gearing difference alone there is a significant difference.

Lay some green down on which one?

So which is faster? What are you hinting at?